The New Family Podcast
http://thenewfamily.com/2018/07/podcast-episode-191-these-moms-build-houses-out-of-mud/
The Permaculture Podcast 2018
http://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/2018/1818/
Paradigms Podcast 2015
https://paradigms.life/2010/sustainable-businesses-ginger-salkowski-jen-gobby-alaa-subaih/
Lilith, Martine, et les autres https://blogs.radiocanut.org/lilithmartineetlesautres/2012/06/15/mudgirls-les-batisseuse-canadiennes/